Indicate one sentence that you highlighted or underlined (give page number and section number) and write a short paragraph (at least 4 sentences) that explains why you underlined it or highlighted it. Be prepared to share this in discussion.
I chose the paragraph on page 64, the paragraph below section 36b, which states "However, we must face the fact that he demands the death penalty. Very good. What alternative penalty shall i propose to you gentlemen? Obviously it must be what's deserved. Well, what penalty do I deserve to pay or suffer, in view of what I have done?"
I liked this part because instead of focusing on himself winning the jury over and getting out of this mess free of charge, he also thinks about what would happen if he lost without giving the jury a proper way of deciding his punishment. He states this, thinking that there is a chance he'll lose, so that if he does lose then he'll atleast be able to have a fair punishment based on what he had suggested. If you don't come up with a good punishment throughout the discussion of the trial being held then most likely you'll have a excruciatingly, pessimistic punishment that adoesn't fit your crime because you never brought up a proper punishment in trial. Basically, I just like Socrates thinking in this paragraph.
Thursday, May 17, 2007
The Apology for 5/17
Indicate one sentence that you highlighted or underlined (give page number and section number) and write a short paragraph (at least 4 sentences) that explains why you underlined it or highlighted it. Be prepared to share this in discussion.
On page 51, section 26d it says "Do you suggest that I do not believe that the sun and moon are gods, like other men do?"
I didn't really understand this sentence, does everyone believe that the sun and the moon are gods in the time period of when "The Apology" was written? I don't know, I'll bring this up in discussion because if every man in this time period does believe that the sun and the moon are gods then this is probably what is confusing me. Hopefully, I can get clarification tomorrow.
On page 51, section 26d it says "Do you suggest that I do not believe that the sun and moon are gods, like other men do?"
I didn't really understand this sentence, does everyone believe that the sun and the moon are gods in the time period of when "The Apology" was written? I don't know, I'll bring this up in discussion because if every man in this time period does believe that the sun and the moon are gods then this is probably what is confusing me. Hopefully, I can get clarification tomorrow.
Tuesday, May 15, 2007
The Apology for 5/16
Indicate one sentence that you highlighted or underlined (give page number and section number) and write a short paragraph (at least 4 sentences) that explains why you underlined it or highlighted it. Be prepared to share this in discussion.
~I picked a full paragraph because I thought that it all had to be read together to give the concept I'm trying to make. On page 41 paragraph 19a it says "Very well, then; I must begin my defence, gentlemen, and I must try, in the short time that I have, to rid your minds of a false impression which is the work of many years. I should like this to be the result, gentlemen, assuming it to be for your advantage and my own; and I should like to be succesfull in my defence; but I think that it will be difficult, and I am quite aware of the nature of my task. However, let that turn out as God wills; I must obey the law and make my defence."
~I thought that this paragraph would be best used for the prosecution because it shows Socrates kind of saying, I know I'm going to lose and I'm not going to put up a fight, this will turn out how God plans that it will. This bugs me because I think Socrates could do so much more instead of just giving up and leaving God to do all the work for him. He could atleast try his hardest or even just a bit more to give the jury some thought into something like, You know, Socrates is right he isn't corrupting the youth, the youth are making their own choices and they might not just be based off Socrates teachings. It seems as if Socrates is just ready to be put to death or suffer severe punishment for his actions because, atleast from my perspective, it looks as though he doesn't even care what happens to him or where he ends up.
~I picked a full paragraph because I thought that it all had to be read together to give the concept I'm trying to make. On page 41 paragraph 19a it says "Very well, then; I must begin my defence, gentlemen, and I must try, in the short time that I have, to rid your minds of a false impression which is the work of many years. I should like this to be the result, gentlemen, assuming it to be for your advantage and my own; and I should like to be succesfull in my defence; but I think that it will be difficult, and I am quite aware of the nature of my task. However, let that turn out as God wills; I must obey the law and make my defence."
~I thought that this paragraph would be best used for the prosecution because it shows Socrates kind of saying, I know I'm going to lose and I'm not going to put up a fight, this will turn out how God plans that it will. This bugs me because I think Socrates could do so much more instead of just giving up and leaving God to do all the work for him. He could atleast try his hardest or even just a bit more to give the jury some thought into something like, You know, Socrates is right he isn't corrupting the youth, the youth are making their own choices and they might not just be based off Socrates teachings. It seems as if Socrates is just ready to be put to death or suffer severe punishment for his actions because, atleast from my perspective, it looks as though he doesn't even care what happens to him or where he ends up.
Monday, May 14, 2007
Pericles Funeral Oration for 5/15
Make a list of some of the Athenian values that you encountered in the text. Choose one a write a couple of sentences (or more) about why it might be good for the trial of Socrates.
~Tradition
~Morals(Right or Wrong thing to do)
~Truth(This kind of applys to the second one listed above but I thought this one was important enough to get its own category)
I'm choosing to write about Tradition-
I think using the Athenian value of Tradition for the trial of Socrates would best be used for either side of the argument. If you used Tradition, many people would feel obligated to concur with your side in the trial. They also use a couple examples of it in the text and for example, the one Mr. Jana pointed out to us in class today related to Tradition and how it was its own category mixed in with the two categories, Apply to Ethics, and Apply to Emotion. I completely agree and think it should be further used as a main Athenian value to be brought up in the final upcoming trial of Socrates.
~Tradition
~Morals(Right or Wrong thing to do)
~Truth(This kind of applys to the second one listed above but I thought this one was important enough to get its own category)
I'm choosing to write about Tradition-
I think using the Athenian value of Tradition for the trial of Socrates would best be used for either side of the argument. If you used Tradition, many people would feel obligated to concur with your side in the trial. They also use a couple examples of it in the text and for example, the one Mr. Jana pointed out to us in class today related to Tradition and how it was its own category mixed in with the two categories, Apply to Ethics, and Apply to Emotion. I completely agree and think it should be further used as a main Athenian value to be brought up in the final upcoming trial of Socrates.
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